2 of 2; Op-ed article, by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel, gets insider attention from Gert McQueen! Part two of two.

There’s always another side of any story!

see part one here…https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2017/07/23/1-of-2-op-ed-article-by-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-gets-insider-attention-from-gert-mcqueen-part-one-of-two/

Behind the scenes comments of Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel

Here, in this part two post, you will find a series of PUBLIC comments from, two different PUBLIC Facebook accounts, where Joan/Doris shared a link about her Buffalo News article. She then asked her friends to comment, on the News article and to ‘educate the public’, for the News EDITED her piece and omitted keys points! She then had continued discussions, in a public forum, about the on-going (real time) placement of comments, on the News article, as well as telling falsehoods about me and family. So much for MY AND MY FAMILY’S PRIVACY! This is WHY I objected to and wrote my comments on the News article, in the first place, for Joan/Doris uses her position to exploit my family via her untruthful book!

I will be discussing many of these comments at end of the presentation of these comments.

DISCLAIMER…Whenever one writes a public article, on any Internet site, and/or comments on a public article, or writes a comment on a PUBLIC Facebook account that is plainly labeled as a PUBLIC post, there is NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. That being said, the commentators on this, on line Buffalo News story, have given their ‘right’ to privacy away and publishing their names here, on a public blog, is PART and PARCEL of the News story.

http://buffalonews.com/2017/07/14/another-voice-cuomo-must-veto-flawed-adoptee-bill/

“Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.”

― Native American Proverb

Here is her strand that she has been weaving…

Doris Michol Sippel shared a link to the group: ALARM – Advocating Legislation for the Adoption Reform MovementJuly 15 at 8:58am

My article helping New York State adoptees published! The Buffalo News edited it, omitting keys points. Please add your comments in the Comment Section! Educate the public!

Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna Commented. Only hope people actually read it.  July 15 at 10:18am

Doris Michol Sippel Thank you! Your comment hasn’t shown up yet. At least I cannot see it. July 15 at 10:30am

Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna Weird, when i commented there was one there then mine. Some one must be deleting them.  July 15 at 12:35pm

Doris Michol Sippel Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna No, it’s there. Website didn’t update, but did later.  July 15 at 3:46pm

Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna I wrote about the 14th amendment equal protection clause. July 15 at 12:36pm

Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna Weird cause i have notifications that people replied, liked my comment but when i go back there, i see no comments. Maybe you need a subcription to the newspaper ?  July 15 at 3:24pm

Doris Michol Sippel Kimberly S. Worden-Poledna I don’t know. I answered your comment. I can send you what I have saved on a Word Document, if you like. And, I don’t know if there are other comments because I blocked my 2 evil sisters so I don’t know if they commented. I think if you blocked someone, their comments will not show up for you.  July 15 at 3:49pm

Natalie Rose Yes I see it   July 15 at 10:44pm

Paul Bourke Andrew Cuomo: typical liberal hypocrite…  July 15 at 3:20pm

Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum I think I pissed someone off.  July 15 at 5:17pm

Doris Michol Sippel Why Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum? I don’t see your comments?  July 15 at 6:11pm

Doris Michol Sippel What did you say? You mean, there are other comments on there? If so, can someone send me screen shots? July 15 at 6:13pm

Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum Currently nine comments. July 15 at 6:52pm

Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum Can you see the replies to comments from people you’ve blocked? You can’t see G’s comment because you blocked her but what about people who reply to her? July 15 at 6:55pm

Doris Michol Sippel Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum Nope. Nothing. I can only see comments not in her her thread by people who are not blocked. Thank you, for whatever you said! If you can copy and paste on a word doc and send it to me, I’d appreciate it.  July 15 at 10:02pm

Natalie Rose Gert McQueen – seems to be a bio fam member of authour  July 15 at 10:45pm

Doris Michol Sippel Natalie Rose Gert is my eldest sister who found me in 1974. I have been hunted down, harassed, abused sexually and my life threatened, all because Gert and my other sisters feel that I am wrong to be anti-adoption.I have absolutely nothing to do with these women (Ruth is the other one) and have not been in contact for over 35 years. They insert themselves into everything I do online. By what is written on that thread ( someone sent me a copy because I blocked them) I can tell you that my sisters have ruined my life. They have 6 blogs dedicated to libel and slander of me. They did horrible things to me in our reunion. I wrote a memoir, not just about them, but me, my life, my adoptive homelife, my journey, my activism since 1974. Take some time and take a look at my website and judge for yourself. www.forbiddenfamily.com … then ask, who is the sane person? Me or gert? My adoptive mother was afraid of my sisters. I am afraid of them. I cannot stop them, either. FORBIDDEN FAMILY Promoting Adoptee Identity Civil Rights Since 1974 FORBIDDENFAMILY.COM   July 15 at 10:52pm

Doris Michol Sippel Obviously, the older, non-adopted sister (Gert) has to tell the younger, adopted-out sister (me), how to behave. Sorry she dragged into other adoptees, too. July 15 at 11:04pm

Natalie Rose Oh Doris, I’m so sorry. I pass no judgement on you! I couldn’t read their comments due to being cruel and obviously vindictive.  I will absolutely read your website. I look forward to learning from you and all who’ve been working so hard against this machine.  July 15 at 11:04pm

Natalie Rose I’m not an adoptee. I’m a first mother.

Doris Michol Sippel Natalie Rose Thank you for understanding. yes, I’ve been at this a very long time. yes, I do posses my OBC, but I do not have the legal right to obtain a copy of it. Gert does not know what she is talking about…if she starts talking about how I interfered in her adoption of her son: this is the real truth: she had a boy and a girl. Her 2nd husband wanted to adopt the 15 year old boy. I said in 1980 that his birth certificate would be changed. They got mad at me and threw me out of their apartment. She is not a birthmother. She is not a foster mother. She is not an adoptive mother, but she will say she is. Twist things to get her way… I’m glad you see how she is. And I do not think I have ever exploited my two families. the book was vetted by an attorney before publication. I have never been sued for libel.    July 15 at 11:11pm

Doris Michol Sippel Natalie Rose I hope you find peace in your journey as a first mother. July 15 at 11:12pm

Natalie Rose Doris Michol Sippel thank you. I’m feeling ready to place my anger into action. If you have any advice or recommend any contacts, please pm me. I’ve been reading a lot of studies and really want to make agencies provide full disclosure to future expectant mothers. July 15 at 11:16pm

Doris Michol Sippel Natalie Rose Yes, let me sleep on this. There are several moms I can send you to. Of course, there is Sandy MusserLee CampbellMirah Riben AuthorJo Swanson, and these are the pioneers! I’m a bit sleepy so not calling up names … Claudia Corrigan D’Arcy also has a great history and involvement in the movement. All of these moms are on facebook and have blogs, or news columns, or have written books. July 15 at 11:21pm

Natalie Rose Doris Michol Sippel thank you! Yes I recognize some of these women July 15 at 11:23pm

Doris Michol Sippel Natalie Rose Sleep time for me now! Goodnight!   July 15 at 11:23pm

…….and from….

Doris Michol Sippel‎ to New York State Adoptee Equality  July 15 at 9:07am

My article calling for Gov. Cuomo to veto Adoptees’ Bill was published in the Buffalo News! The editor took out key points, so, please, head over to the Comment Section!

Rosemary Starace Excellent article nevertheless.

Doris Michol Sippel Thank you!

Lisa Boone First let me say this. My adoptive family is my family. They have been there for every joyous and difficult life event. I love them with my entire heart.

After reading all of the comments, I had a burning desire to chime in at the web site containing the editorial; however, it would not further a healthy debate on the topic. The bottom line is that two people procreated and the resulting child is factually who they are at birth. We all have a right to that information and everything resulting from that is separate. Adoption will always be an important option, but my identity is mine alone. You gave up that right when you had relations. I know bio mother and one year ago found bio dad via DNA. My blood, my heritage, and my identity were erased at the age of two and replaced with another. Adoption should not erase your original identity, rather adoption should be an acceptance of who you have always been since birth, unless the adoptee chooses to change it when they grow up. I am in MN – closed adoption state. Rant over.  July 16 at 5:00pm

Gretchen Elisabeth Hoffman Catholic charities in St. Paul Minnesota had a good post adoption legal service that put me and my sons adoptive mother together. Not so closed a state

End of these comments…

Now for my own take on what Joan/Doris has said and done here!

Joan said…

My article helping New York State adoptees published! The Buffalo News edited it, omitting keys points. Please add your comments in the Comment Section! Educate the public!

Gert says…Well isn’t that NICE! The editors were at work editing out ‘key points’ of Joan/Doris’ rants. Joan knows better than an editor! She corrected that ‘editing’ in her comments on the News site. But the POINT is that the editorial stuff of the News, has the right to edit OUT what is inappropriate and knowing Joan/Doris she must have had quite a rant! ‘Educate the public’!? This is not how one goes about doing that ‘educating’, particularly when she tells falsehoods, here, and then has her ‘gang of thugs’ go after me on a public news article! This is the common practice that Joan and other adoptees do to ANYONE who is pro-adoption…bad PR work!

Joan said…

I don’t know if there are other comments because I blocked my 2 evil sisters so I don’t know if they commented. I think if you blocked someone, their comments will not show up for you.

Gert says… typical name-calling by Joan in public…character assassination. No wonder the ‘other side’ NEVER gets to tell their story, we have been pre-judged!

Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum/Doris Michol Sippel says…

I think I pissed someone off.

Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum Can you see the replies to comments from people you’ve blocked? You can’t see G’s comment because you blocked her but what about people who reply to her? July 15 at 6:55pm

Doris Michol Sippel Gaye Sherman Tannenbaum Nope. Nothing. I can only see comments not in her her thread by people who are not blocked. Thank you, for whatever you said! If you can copy and paste on a word doc and send it to me, I’d appreciate it.  July 15 at 10:02pm

Gert says…and it appears as if those News editors also were on the job keeping Gaye in her place! Gaye has her own vile tongue that is greased by Joan’s hatred for me and my family.  Joan asked for a copy and pasted doc of what is being said by me! Okay, that’s fine…but I don’t want to hear Joan bitch that HER PRIVACY is being violated! She can’t have her cake and eat it too!

Joan said…Natalie Rose Gert is my eldest sister who found me in 1974. I have been hunted down, harassed, abused sexually and my life threatened, all because Gert and my other sisters feel that I am wrong to be anti-adoption.I have absolutely nothing to do with these women (Ruth is the other one) and have not been in contact for over 35 years. They insert themselves into everything I do online. By what is written on that thread ( someone sent me a copy because I blocked them) I can tell you that my sisters have ruined my life. They have 6 blogs dedicated to libel and slander of me. They did horrible things to me in our reunion. I wrote a memoir, not just about them, but me, my life, my adoptive homelife, my journey, my activism since 1974. Take some time and take a look at my website and judge for yourself. www.forbiddenfamily.com … then ask, who is the sane person? Me or gert? My adoptive mother was afraid of my sisters. I am afraid of them. I cannot stop them, either.

Gert says…the same old tired story filled lies by Joan that she has put into print and spreads where ever she goes! Ruth and I have addressed all these accusations of Joan multiple times on our blogs and in Amazon comments and discussion forums. If we DID all these horrible things, then WHY would we write about them and provide DOCUMENTATION of the REALITY of the episodes? Joan doesn’t recognize anything but her own versions.

The fact that Joan/Doris exposes and exploits us and our family, via her books, escapes her, she sees NOTHING wrong with that and therefore she can’t fathom WHY we object! She is frustrated BECAUSE we will NOT be silent in the face of her exploitation of our family. We are her worst enemy, ones she cannot destroy because she created us.

Because she is NARCISSITIC everything is exaggerated! Any statement that is contrary to hers MUST be false! She can’t handle another’s viewpoint! How does she know how many blogs we have; because she can’t stop herself from following US AROUND! Kathy has one inactive blog. Ruth has on active blog. Gert has two active blogs and one Facebook page; that makes FIVE not six. If you count Amazon that makes six! If Joan would STOP writing about us, we wouldn’t have to contour her! She screams that we libel and slander her, but THINKS NOTHING of what she has done to us and our entire family!

Her memoir is NOT about her life it’s about her PERCEPTION of how everyone hurt her and she wrote it to get EVEN with everyone because she is adopted. Anyone who writes a book and USES the real birth and adoptive family sur-names and discusses ANYTHING about other REAL people WITHOUT permission is exposing and exploiting those people. The ONLY way that Ruth and I can do is to give OUR TRUTH and JUSTICE via writing, to contour, all that Joan has written that is false. On Amazon, we have the right and we do, write reviews, comments and discussion forums. If she can’t handle the truth then she NEEDS to get out of the public arenas. She can’t hide between her BS story line forever; that is WHY she wants to discredit us. We don’t have to discredit her, for she has already done that job very well!

She can’t see that the majority of people that don’t have a VESTED interest in her propaganda agenda can SEE which person is sane or not. Her sense of self-importance is threatened every time I speak ABOUT her involvement in my own adopting! That is why she brings out the ‘my adoptive mother was afraid of my sisters. I am afraid of them. I cannot stop them, either.’ Bullshit! She CAN stop us! ALL she has to do is STOP exploiting us and family with that lying book! Drop it! stop, just stop! If she doesn’t or can’t, well then she HAS TO KEEP HEARING FROM US.

Joan said…Obviously, the older, non-adopted sister (Gert) has to tell the younger, adopted-out sister (me), how to behave. Sorry she dragged into other adoptees, too.

Gert says… This old pathetic line! She has NO RIGHT to interfere with my or anyone else’s PARENTAL RIGHTS. Joan violated me and my family! Oh and look at that pathetic sorry line!

Joan said…Natalie Rose Thank you for understanding. yes, I’ve been at this a very long time. yes, I do posses my OBC, but I do not have the legal right to obtain a copy of it. Gert does not know what she is talking about…if she starts talking about how I interfered in her adoption of her son: this is the real truth: she had a boy and a girl. Her 2nd husband wanted to adopt the 15 year old boy. I said in 1980 that his birth certificate would be changed. They got mad at me and threw me out of their apartment. She is not a birthmother. She is not a foster mother. She is not an adoptive mother, but she will say she is. Twist things to get her way… I’m glad you see how she is. And I do not think I have ever exploited my two families. the book was vetted by an attorney before publication. I have never been sued for libel.

Gert says… How interesting is this…that Joan must say BEFORE I said anything online…(‘if she starts talking about how I interfered in her adoption of her son: this is the real truth’) Joan KNOWS what the truth is and she HAS TO tell her version BEFORE I CAN!

Yep Joan has the truth! She was there when I adopted my son, she was present with the lawyer and the signing of the documents…WRONG! She doesn’t know the TRUTH of anything; she’s got her story and she’s sticking with it!

Both my children were to BE ADOPTED by second husband! BUT, because they were both over the age of 14 they had to GIVE THEIR PERMISSION to be adopted. My daughter did NOT want to be adopted, therefore she wasn’t! I did kick Joan out of my home, AFTER she called me an unfit mother for adopting and NOT caring about the birth certificate! Joan can NOT see that she did anything wrong. When I forbade her contact with my children she called false child abuse upon us.

In adopting one’s OWN blood child, there are three pieces of papers for the birth mother to sign. Joan was NOT THERE.

I AM the birth mother and I had to sign to GIVE AWAY my child into adoption. Then I became the FOSTER MOTHER and signed to TAKE CARE of said child I just gave up. Then I became the ADOPTIVE mother and signed to TAKE CARE of said child whose name was CHANGED.

Joan’s book may have been vetted BUT once the birth family presented DOCUMENTATION the publisher’s lawyers DEEMED that Joan VIOLATED THE CONTRACT. That is why the book was pulled by Trafford Publishers and why she had to SELF publish.

Correct she’s never been sued for anything, because she doesn’t have anything to take from. That is why we WRITE.

Joan said…

Natalie Rose I hope you find peace in your journey as a first mother.

Gert says…Ahh isn’t that sweet?!! Joan offers peace to someone she doesn’t know and yet has NO peace to offer to her victims! Joan is living the life she created for herself.

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I don’t even know what to say — it’s the same old story – Joan/Doris just lies her ass off.

gertmcqueen 

July 30, 2017 at 1:22 pm

Anyone who DOESN’T know that Joan/Doris lies hasn’t been paying attention or doesn’t care to know or believes what they want to believe, like Joan/Doris herself! We on the other hand, who first hand what the truth is and HOW she lies! Joan believes her own BULLSHIT and that is WHY she is a loser, personally and as a activist for adoption reform…NO ONE takes her seriously, she is totally INEFFECTUAL and everyone knows that except her and her friends.

Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has found another avenue to sell her lying book!

Apparently, sales have NOT been good! How could they be? Who wants to spend money on this idiot’s life? It’s common knowledge that her book is garbage and untrue!

Where’s that OTHER book she was going to publish a YEAR ago, the one with OTHER adoptees? Guess she didn’t get any takers for that! Nope she needs to get out of the book writing selling business!

Before long we will find Joan/Doris standing on street corners hawking her book!

Mainstream adoption reformers DON’T list her book on their book lists; they know that her books are NOT going to help the reform movement and they don’t want to be associated with her when the FAMILY (me) exposes them. And expose I will do!

So she’s found another way! Seen on Facebook…

Adoptee Voices Promotions

https://www.facebook.com/groups/321987731251995/

Under items for sale, we find

Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity.

€9 Buffalo, NY  Available from Amazon. Kindle $9.99. Print $19.99 American Dollars

And her post

Doris Michol Sippel  July 10 at 3:43pm

Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity.

€9 Buffalo, NY Available from Amazon. Kindle $9.99. Print $19.99 American Dollars

Book Description: The death of my married mother when I was an infant led to my closed adoption. Eighteen years later, I was found by family I did not know I had.

(there then is a picture of the book)

And COMMENTS on the Facebook page

Catherine Lynch congratulations! I hope we can get this book in Australia!  July 10 at 10:02pm

Liz O’Keefe Catherine Lynch, you can get it https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family…/dp/0692780610

Well BEFORE anyone purchases Joan/Doris’s book they OUGHT to read the reviews, comments and forums on Amazon.

Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum

https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_rvt?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

Joan Mary Wheeler forum

https://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/forum.html/ref=cm_cd_rvt?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3T0YAD0KXNPP5

https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Joan-M-Wheeler/dp/1412061547

and these sites written my TWO birth family members

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/

https://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com/

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/     this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

a Facebook page dedicated to the lying books.

Joan M Wheeler DECLARES that she is mentally ill!

And the reason is ADOPTION! I kid you not!

see end of post for update info

Now, who in their right mind would declare such a thing as they are mentally ill? Obviously she is NOT in her right mind!

It is common knowledge that any form of ‘mentally illness’ on a JOB RESUME is a no-no…a non-starter! It is also common knowledge that anyone who is KNOWN to be mentally unsound is NOT…well OF SOUND MIND! So it begs the question…what the hell is Joan M Wheeler thinking??? Obviously she isn’t…thinking! She is so against ADOPTION that she has finally gone over the edge of sanity and declared herself MENTALLY ILL via ADOPTION!

For someone who has gone out of her way, for YEARS, to tell everyone, everywhere, that she is a SOCIAL WORKER and she KNOWS what she’s talking about, when it comes to the evils of adoption, to state that she has mental illness, is a career killer! Yep you read that right! Joan’s personal hatred of adoption is so strong she just KILLED her changes of ever being taken SERIOUSLY by anyone! And this will help the cause of ADOPTION REFORM…HOW?

Yes, I know that there are many adoptees who feel the same way as Joan and perhaps their reasons and feelings are well-founded. But by no means are they the representation of ALL ADOPTEES. In the adoption REFORM movement these types of adoptees and their hatred are NOT helping the true needs for reform. Such public outbursts of mentally ill statements and the like will NEVER alter the minds of those that CHANGE laws.

So those adoptees, like Joan, are an island on to themselves, keeping up their hatred and anger and condemning the rest of the world who ADOPT. So be it!

The following comes from a Facebook site; Is adoption trauma   February 15, 2016

It is Joan M Wheeler’s statement of her being mentally ill via adoption.

joanILL

https://www.facebook.com/isadoptiontrauma/photos/a.303334736514703.1073741828.300439036804273/531623050352536/?type=3&theater

February 19, 2016 Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I thought ADULT adoptees did NOT like images of babies, so why does this MENTALLY ILL adoptee use an image of a baby? You do not do your cause any good by admitting you ARE MENTALLY ILL. And when the adoptee GOES after the very birth family they WANT and FOUND it only shows that mental illness that they themselves have. The rest of the birth family has NO MENTAL ILLNESS. MUST BE within this individual adoptee.

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace of course delusions are so entrenched.

THEN…

They posted the Amazon listing for Joan’s book…

Is Adoption Trauma? added a new photo to the album: Adoption Books.  Feb 19

Raised from infancy as an only child, 18 year old Joan Mary Wheeler knows only that she was adopted. In her senior year of high school in 1974, she is found by siblings she did not know she had.They tell her that she was the youngest of five children born to married parents, that their mother died when she was three months old, and that her name was Doris Michol Sippel.

What happens next is the unfolding of family secrets and betrayal, joys of discovery, sadness of time lost,… and the push and pull of two families on the one person they share. This adoption reunion reaches across the North American continent, the Atlantic Ocean, and spans four decades.

This is also the story of one woman who examined her two different birth certificates for 40 years and asks, “Why did New York State Health Department change my identity?”

Amazon – http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00X520CGW…

IMMEDIATELY…the comments came…

T.J. Schmitt notice the “thought police” have found the amazon reviews for this book, there is one jerk who slams this book as a “violation of privacy” …. they are everywhere, aren’t they? it is so interesting… psychologists know that adoption in traumatic, they don’t even dispute it. but the general public would rather believe it’s “beautiful” because their favourite movie star says so….. f’ing sheep

Maggie Watanabe That one is a stalker.

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace ‘that one’ is one of the birth sisters of the author. As am I. You don’t know the whole story.

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace the 2009 printed edition contained slander against me, which I sent proof of via court and police documents to the publisher of the book. Their legal team determined the author violated the terms of contract when she signed it saying the book was the truth. The publisher pulled the book from publication. I’m sorry that you guys think the birth family doesn’t have the right to NOT have their good reputtions sullied. I’ve had to deal with the author calling my job with lies to get me fired – the last incident being 2012. The author is well known for causing trouble for many family members. One incident in 2009 caused the Town of Tonawanda police to call my house wherein “that one” who does not live in the area to be named as doing something. When she called the police the next day, they told her “don’t worry about her (the author), we know all about her.”

Jennifer Suzanna This thread proves what a mess adoption makes.

T.J. Schmitt AH, mental cases drawn to pain like a shark to blood. Looks like somebody forgot to take her meds… blocked her

Gert here…

no surprise, of course, all comments were removed from the thread were Joan’s book is listed. Obviously, I was able to capture them beforehand.

In the world of human beings…no matter what the topic, there are always many sides and always there are those that remain closed to any form of reason.

There’s an old saying… you can NOT have a reasonable conversation with a drunk or a mentally ill person.

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UPDATE MARCH 2017; as older posts are being seen I, Gert, am updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ published in 2009, was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011 due to libelous material in it. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’, being her own editor and owner. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/     this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

in addition…

This author, whether she goes by Joan M Wheeler or Doris M Sippel, has three books, all the same but for title and author name. There are two ‘discussion’ forums, on Amazon, for two of the books. The first book has one review and several comments related.

The buying public has the right to view and comment on those forums and comments.

Here are those links…

Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum

https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_rvt?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

Joan Mary Wheeler forum

https://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/forum.html/ref=cm_cd_rvt?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3T0YAD0KXNPP5

https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Joan-M-Wheeler/dp/1412061547

 

Joan Mary Wheeler, duped by adoption, and being a life-long victim, would like to know where her relief, from long-term abuse, is; what is that remedy she’s looking for?

But as always she’s looking in the wrong places! Here, I present three wrong places.

There certainly are real problems with prolonged stresses of all kinds. It certainly takes a long time to get to a stage where healing can happen. But, a person must truly want the relief, for the remedies to work. Wishing and hoping and praying (something she doesn’t do) will NEVER be enough. A person MUST do concrete actions in order for the remedies to bring the relief.

One of the first things a person is told, when they are overwhelmed with troubles, is to STOP engaging in any and all news stories. Then they are told, and taught, how to relax and get in touch with their bodies so that the body can began to heal. Relaxation then allows the negative feelings to dissipate and be replaced with positive healing feelings/energies.

Joan knows this! She’s had several friends tell her what she needs to do, even tried to teach her, to support her, but no, these things are not what Joan wants to do. So she will continue to be a basket case of, and with, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual ailments because she refuses to take care of herself and her soul. She does not want to hear what her soul has to tell her.

In June, 2015, Joan Mary Wheeler liked an article and said…

‘And for those of us who are victims of abuse (emotional, physical, cyber stalking, cyberbullying, extended over long periods of time – years) what is our remedy? What is our relief?’

http://img.medicalxpress.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2014/hippocampus.png

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-05-memory-hippocampus.html

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Now I didn’t see anything in that news story that remotely related to her question but I do have some suggestions;

let go of your life-long hate and anger over being adopted

stop thinking like a victim

stop with the pity-party

stop browbeating people who adopt

stop searching for news articles about abuse and adoption

stop thinking, reading and writing about adoption

stop rewriting and promoting your story

AND

start thinking about loving yourself and all of your two families

start thinking like a confident strong survivor

start thinking that others have a right to think and do as they want

start thinking that adoption has a place in the world of humans

start thinking of accepting your life

start by helping the sick and dying without personal benefit

start being grateful for your life, however imperfect it is

start praying to the Divine

start now, for your life will not last forever

And if you don’t start altering your views you will face DEATH totally alone and afraid!

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That being said, let’s RETURN to the question…where is her relief from abuse. Well it’s obvious that she’s NOT going to find it by hanging on to her pain and her story. Let’s look at an example of how Joan is ‘one with her pain’; how she refuses to let it go!

There are many adoptee sites available these days that seem to KEEP the negative aspects flowing by encouraging adoptees to speak about their pain. This is why so many, for a lack of a better term, ‘negative adoptees’, seem to disrespect and condemn those adoptees who are happy, content and loving in their adoption circumstances. Negative begets negative and cannot understand positive. They all talk about ‘validating’ their feelings! Validating feelings is good, but only up to a point. If you can NOT get beyond the pain there is SOMETHING very wrong.

Sept 2015 – from the Facebook site, Is Adoption Trauma?

Were you expected to be silent about your adoption or were you encouraged to talk about all that you lost and your feelings regarding your adoption?

Joan Mary Wheeler said;

I was never allowed to talk about being adopted. My adoptive mother told me at my young age of about 5 that I was adopted. First she told me that my mother had too many children so she gave me to my new parents. I didn’t know what to think or feel. A few years later, when I was about 7, my adoptive mother said that my mother had died and my father thought it best that I live with my new parents. What is a small child supposed to do with this information? I kept it to myself, afraid, feeling alone. Then I was found at age 18 by siblings I was never supposed to know. My adoptive mother could no longer hide behind her lies. Yes, my mother had died, but I was not told I had four older full blood siblings and an entire family of relatives who lived in the same city. Nor was I told that they all kept the secret because adoptees are never supposed to know the truth. The feelings of betrayal, the loneliness, and the hate directed at me simply because I was adopted — I felt this as a small child. This is not how a child should be raised. Nor is it how an adoptee should be treated. (end)

Why does she have to keep repeating it? Abuse begets abuse. Repeating it doesn’t stop it, repeating it only VALIDATES the abuse! Repeating it continues the pain and abuse!

She should have known this a long time ago, but her pain is SO engrained into her being that she must continue. She started writing ‘her story’ the moment she was ‘found’ by birth siblings. She wrote it over and over again while raising children, if you call it (raising) that. She printed it in published articles and then in a book. When that book was pulled, for libelous content, she rewrote it again. She really has no sense of how she is repeating the abuse, how by repeating, over and over again, in print, what she went through, and HOW she (mis)taught and (mis)treated her own children, how she is continuing on with the abuse!

From her book, we see how Joan teaches her children about adoption; first from the e-book edition and then from the pulled from publication book.

New book…. Location 4492, Chapter 33 My Children

‘By the time Aaron turned six and Bridgette was three, the facts surrounding their mother’s adoption and reunion were accepted parts of everyday life. One day, as I went about my daily chores, the kids were playing in the living room. I was in the kitchen washing dishes when I heard my son say, ‘Now, Bridgette we’re gonna play house. I’m the Daddy and you’re the Mommy. Here, we have our babies, take a doll and I’ll take the other one. Now Bridgette you die. Go lay down and die!

I took a dishtowel and dried my hands. Moving closer, I saw my daughter lying on the rug with her arms outstretched. Aaron continued, ‘that’s good, Bridgette but now you have to play the other mother.’ Bridgette stood up, walked to another part of the living room and waited. Her brother walked toward her with the doll she dropped. ‘Now here’s the baby. We can be a new family now’. Then the two continued playing house by feeding their two babies, pushing them in the stroller, and tucking them into bed. I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry. What amazed me was that they picked up on the one mother dying and the other waiting to make a home for the baby. But why didn’t they simply play house like other kids? The answer was obvious, because they weren’t like other kids. They were living through an adoption-reunion along with their mother and reflected what they’d heard by making it a part of their personal identities. They understood their mother was adopted. I don’t know if this particular scenario was ever repeated. I did, however, witness Aaron and Bridgette playing house with the typical mother, father, and baby routine at other times. It seemed that they accepted different ways of making a family.’

Note…Italics is the author’s

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In the first book… pgs 282-283, Chapter 25 Meeting Resistance with Education

We find a different version. Here is ONLY what was changed from and into the NEW edition.

Knowledge of how their mother came to be adopted and had a reunion became everyday conversation.

It was natural for them. Understanding how their mother came to be was important.

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In conclusion, both editions of her story seem to show Joan’s warped, strange and unhealthy sense of how to explain adoption to her children. She must have spoken often of her mother’s death, and then a ‘new mommy’ taking the baby, for the children to ‘grasp’ that concept.

Joan also places her children in a state of being according to Joan’s view; ‘living through an adoption-reunion along with their mother and reflected what they’d heard by making it a part of their personal identities. They understood their mother was adopted’ and ‘because they weren’t like other kids’.

Go back and read what Joan says about how she ‘was told’ about her adoption. How is the way she told her children, about how she was adopted, any better? Or worse? Think about it!

With that I leave you with some simple suggestions…

http://www.bodymindsoulspirit.com/7-ways-to-remove-negative-energy/

http://www.thetadprinciple.com/daily-musings/stop-being-a-victim-of-compulsive-thinking/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/17/the-psychology-of-why-people-like-steve-rannazzisi-lie-about-having-survived-911/

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Joan she keeps whining about me and how she is “afraid of me” – (I’ve NEVER laid a hand on her in all the years that I’ve known her, so where does that statement come from?) – Anyway – Joan does NOT want to heal. She LIKES being the victim – because then she can get sympathy and attention!
She asks for “relief” from harassment from her birth sisters? – Well it’s a two way street! WHY would she write a letter to my job with lies about me trying to get me fired in November 2012 and then brag about it on the internet (The Huffington Post in January 2013)?
What did she think I would think about that? Did she think I would happy about that? No, I was not. I hauled that bitch into court – where another fucking asshole judge dismissed the charges. Like the one judge did back in 1995 (again after Joan was contacting my job with lies trying to get me fired). That judge said “sisters should get along.”
So the question I have – WHERE IS MY RELIEF FROM JOAN MARY WHEELER?
Well, I have some now – I recently retired from my job – so I have taken Joan’s toy away from her.

You want relief Joan? Then stop with your own shit!