Doris Michol Sippel/Joan Mary Wheeler sends out a facebook friend request and gets slapped down real hard.

Obviously not every one thinks/believes like her and it
begs the question…why did she send a ‘friend’ request in the first place?

Refuting a Book of Lies: Forbidden Family --

On October 14, 2017 Joan/Doris gets a response to her request for a new facebook friend. The response was not pretty.

“Doris Michol Sippel I think I just stepped into the twilight zone! I just received a friend request from you. So I decided to visit your page to see if we had mutual friends. I’m so taken back by all this hatred, disgust, ignorance, ugliness, bitterness… How could you possibly think that I’d wannna associate with you? Why would you even begin to think that? Just wanted you to know before I block you.”

I think I’ll just leave this right here. There’s nothing to be said about it – except – HA HA HA!

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If Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is a ‘free thinker’ than she ought to ALLOW everyone the freedom to THINK and BELIEVE as they want…but she can’t!

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Found the following in my ‘to work on’ folder. Don’t have a note to tell me how long it’s been there, or how it was given to me; many items are forwarded to me by many people.

also see this recent post of mine of similar content…

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/11/26/a-couple-of-peeks-into-how-a-causal-friendship-with-joan-m-wheeler-doris-m-sippel-can-have-negative-consequences-for-the-friend/

My commentary will appear following Joan/Doris’s. I am leaving her spelling as it is. She never uses spell checker.

The ‘link’ is now unavailable but with a bit of research I found a couple of ‘possible’ new links. The links are http://wnyatheist.org/about.html  and on Facebook  WNY Atheists, Freethinkers and Secularists

The original link (which cannot be open) is here…
The Atheist Experience Of Western New York (Buffalo, NY) – Meetup

http://www.meetup.com/The-Atheist-Experience-of-Western-New-York/

The contents…

Joan Wheeler  Location:  Buffalo, NY  Member since: December 29, 2012

Introduction

Hi! I joined the Facebook group, but haven’t been on FB in a long time. I’m…

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A couple of peeks into how a causal friendship, with Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel, can have negative consequences, for the friend!

she does have ‘history’ that can not be hidden

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

The following has been in my ‘to work on’ folder for some years. The links are ‘unable to be opened’ but they are as real now as when she wrote them. When I captured this exchange Joan/Doris was using the following Facebook icon. I am unable to view her site and so cannot verify the dates…but as you can see these are her words and how she believes. I have NOT corrected Joan and her friend’s spelling. I am NOT going to show Russell Thomas’s face!

It also needs to be noted that Joan really doesn’t have a correct understanding of what she is talking about here. But that doesn’t bother her, for she BELIEVES whatever it is she believes, even if it is false and of course ‘dismisses’ the belief of the other person!

BUT before we get to that exchange here’s another PEEK

Russell Thomas published a note.

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Delighting in condemning her birth siblings, JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel shows her fangs, but was called on it and told to pull them in!

got to watch her every move…

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

It never fails to amaze me how ‘certain’ adoptee sites NEVER want to hear about wrongdoings done by an adoptee. Some adoptees seem to have a telfon coating that allows THEIR wrongdoings to fall away without a second glance from other adoptees. But, maybe some are beginning to see that there may be a chip in that telfon coating of Joan/Doris, for they are beginning to…to…I’ll leave that up to you to decide.

I have already written a blog post, of my own, about certain peoples’ comments, that mistreated someone (an adoptee by other adoptees) on this particular blog post…

https://dearadoption.com/2017/11/03/dear-adoption-if-we-both-have-lost/

The link to that post of mine was posted, on the above, by someone other than myself; along with other interesting comments. But here it is…

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/how-not-to-win-over-adoptees-and-gain-converts-to-abolish-adoption-joanmwheelerdorismsippel-at-her-best-flipthescript/

The purpose of this blog post, of mine, is to answer yet another comment by Joan/Doris in which she delights in exposing…

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Oh the shame of adoption! Yep that’s the lament of ‘certain’ adoptees! Most notably Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel!

She will not let it go! She not just a broken record, she’s a warped broken record! I’ve noted in recent months of 2017 that she has found another NEW blogger/audience where she can regurgitating the same crap, ‘her’ story, over and over again…most of which is untrue! One has to wonder just how much this new ‘audience’ knows about Joan/Doris! Only time will tell.

So I found Joan/Doris, using her ‘legitmatebastard’ name, on a comment on this…

https://velvetbocephus.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/shame-on-open-adoption-dammit/

I’m not interested in and am not showing the full blog post, just Joan/Doris’s comment.

My commentary, in between Joan/Doris’s words will be in bold.

legitimatebastard   October 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm

I can relate. My father, in his grief after his wife, my mother, died, was talked into giving me up for adoption. At my mother’s funeral, the parish priest said to my father, “The baby needs two parents.” A few minutes later, a woman approached my father and said, “I know someone who will take your baby.”

Gert here…what utter bullshit! Our father KNEW his wife was dying three months BEFORE she died! They talked! They made decisions! Father started negotiations to remarry, with mother’s permission, to a woman who had 2 children and who would help raise his 5 children. BUT…she refused the infant (Joan/Doris). When mother died the decision to place that infant INTO ADOPTION had already been made.

NOTHING was done at the funeral…this is a total falsehood in Joan/Doris’s mind…remember she is mentally ill, by her own admission! NOTHING that Joan/Doris details, at a funeral would have HAPPENED. She is a drama queen and MUST convince everyone that her mind’s details are REAL…but they are NOT.

That woman’s brother and his wife adopted me. I was raised an only child in a happy home. I loved my adoptive parents with childhood innocence. But when I was 18 and still in high school, I was found by four older full blood siblings that my adoptive parents knew I had, but never wanted me to know.

Gert here… that’s true! This also points to Joan/Doris incontinency about her being a Late Discovery Adoptee. She continues to say that she is a Late Discovery Adoptee when she clearly is NOT. She knew from early childhood that she was an adoptee. A Late Discovery Adoptee ONLY LEARNS about being adopted once they REACH ADULTHOOD. This points to Joan/Doris’s constant lying!

 The shock of being betrayed by my adoptive parents, the shock of learning details of my original family and the anger thrown at me by my adoptive mother and extended adoptive family because I was in reunion, complied with the anger and “you should think this” and “you should do this” from extended natural family, well, I imploded. I was in trauma response for decades. Had no inner peace. I didn’t fit in either family. Constant fighting because everyone had their opinions of who and what I should be. But my own feelings, my own needs, were ignored and belittled. My activism was shot down. I was seen as ungrateful and much worse.

Gert here…Oh my Gods…she ‘imploded’! That must explain it then! She imploded parts and pieces all over the place and was put back together all messed up! No wonder she can’t be reasoned with!

Seriously!!! She must have been reading more books to come up with MORE dramatic language to explain her being FOUND! Poor thing, she has no inner peace because she will NOT shut up, she will NOT give it up, she will NOT LET IT GO! The first thing to get healthy is to GIVE IT A REST. But…not this idiot, she NEEDS HER PAIN. She NEEDS HER SELF-FLAGILATION.

 And the kicker? My adoptive parents lived three blocks up and one block over from my father and siblings when they “got me”. My siblings were playing outside; their mother dead and their baby sister went missing. Several months later, my adoptive parents moved out of the city and bought a house 6 miles away. I grew up in isolation, while older relatives in both families knew where I was and spied on me. My father stayed away because the judge told him to stay away from me and my adoptive parents so I “wouldn’t be confused.” Ha! All of the other relatives knew each other, but DON’T TELL THE ADOPTEE ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO KNOW.

Gert here…drama, drama, drama! The KICKER is that we WANTED HER; we siblings contacted her…worst fucking mistake of our collective lives! She is pure evil! Joan/Doris destroyed each and every relationship with members of the birth family with HER behaviors. She poisoned the wells not once but over and over and over again…and then wrote three books!

 Oh yes, one other point. Before her death in 2011, my 95 year old adoptive mother told me that she and my adoptive father felt sorry for my father and siblings. So they bought presents and a Christmas tree for them. In their kind and generous gesture of spreading Christmas Cheer, they made themselves feel better by giving to a needy family at Christmas; but they walked off with the baby.

Gert here…ah YES, there’s always another point; the adoptive mother was a piece of work! She is the one who filled Joan/Doris’s mind with all sorts of negative caricatures and stories about her birth family. The woman was a master manipulator and worked Joan/Doris’s mind right to the bitter end! And Joan/Doris, she couldn’t break away from the crazed manipulator, for she NEEDED the connection! And today, in 2017, she STILL can’t let it go! She MUST repeat and repeat and repeat a LIE.

My father did NOT receive anything from the adoptive parents, EVER. For the adoptive parents, to COME to the home of the child’s parent, would have been a VIOLATION of the adoption order. My father WOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE DOOR IN THEIR FACES, just as he did to Joan/Doris, not once but at least three times that I’m aware of, for VIOLATING his privacies.

My father OBEYED the court order and so did the adoptive parents. If the adoptive mother told this to Joan/Doris she had a REASON to and that reason was most likely to continue the ‘push/pull’ they both could NOT break between them. They had a true sadist/masochistic relationship.

Joan/Doris is STUCK ON THE SHAME OF ADOPTION because she no longer has that sick adoptive mother to argue and bitch with all day long! And so she MUST argue and bitch on the internet…if you believe her you are doomed!

Now here are just some of the many sites were this topic, of the ‘gift’ of a Christmas tree and presents, have been discussed by the birth sisters.

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/joan-wheeler-continues-to-lie-and-lie-on-another-adoption-site-but-she-got-caught-part-one/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/joan-wheeler-continues-to-lie-and-lie-on-another-adoption-site-but-she-got-caught-part-two/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2014/12/19/joanwheeler-despises-herself-how-then-can-she-help-anyone-she-cant/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/joan-m-wheeler-duped-by-adoption-loves-to-tell-her-horrible-story-of-adoption-but-only-on-her-terms/

UPDATE NOV 2017; I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/   this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Also see this Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

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How NOT to win over adoptees and gain converts to abolish adoption; JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel at her BEST! #flipthescript

spread the word about how these adoptees go after other adoptees who don’t hate being adopted

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Yep she does her BEST work when she browbeats insults and demeans ADOPTEES! It’s bad enough when she goes after adoptive mothers and family members, but ADOPTEES? Oh that’s because she can NOT abide that an adoptee would ACCEPT being adopted.

Now I can go on and on about HOW WRONG this is but we all know that Joan/Doris loves to HATE and she LOVES to browbeat and insult! No I’m not saying much here, I think the basics are all that is needed. People can go to the blog posts, see the comments, judge for themselves and then make comments or not, tell others or not, I don’t have to do much more than PUT THIS OUT THERE.

I just saw that Joan/Doris reblogged a post on her blog

https://forbiddenfamily.com/2017/11/03/dear-adoption-if-we-both-have-lost/

here is the link to the original post

https://dearadoption.com/2017/11/03/dear-adoption-if-we-both-have-lost/

An adoptee bekahbug9412pranali23   posted a comment…

Then legitimatebastard (Joan/Doris)…

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