Revisiting JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel’s CALL TO ARMS against her birth siblings!

In 2016 Joan M Wheeler legally changed her name back to her birth name of Doris M Sippel. We siblings call her Joan/Doris. Her lies will always follow her!

In 2009, Joan/Doris wrote and published a hate manifesto, against both the adopted and birth families, under the name of a ‘memoir’, without gaining permission from anyone in the family. She published it with OUR family’s name on the front cover and a family picture on the back. Once the birth sisters found out, about the book, we began discussions with the publisher of that first book (she self-published two additional editions). The publisher, Trafford Publications, agreed that Joan/Doris had violated their contract and they pulled the book from being further published. That action was due to the family presenting documented evidence to prove the falsehoods and misrepresentations in that first book.

There is NO need to take her to court; the court of PUBLIC opinion speaks more than any court room. Besides, she has no assesses to pay damages to those to whom she has harmed. Her words and deeds will follow her long after she is dead!

Joan/Doris has a long history of trashing the family and in particular the birth sisters. We have blogs and a Facebook page about her books. Her self-publishing of the book does NOT change the facts that it is STILL a hate manifesto and contains many lies and misrepresentations of our family and individual reputations.

This post contains links to the five part series in which I documented many of Joan/Doris’s attempts to silence her birth siblings! I had recently revamped them for easier reading.

Here are the links to the five part series

In addition… I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people! this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor
this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

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Oh the shame of adoption! Yep that’s the lament of ‘certain’ adoptees! Most notably Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel!

She will not let it go! She not just a broken record, she’s a warped broken record! I’ve noted in recent months of 2017 that she has found another NEW blogger/audience where she can regurgitating the same crap, ‘her’ story, over and over again…most of which is untrue! One has to wonder just how much this new ‘audience’ knows about Joan/Doris! Only time will tell.

So I found Joan/Doris, using her ‘legitmatebastard’ name, on a comment on this…

I’m not interested in and am not showing the full blog post, just Joan/Doris’s comment.

My commentary, in between Joan/Doris’s words will be in bold.

legitimatebastard   October 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm

I can relate. My father, in his grief after his wife, my mother, died, was talked into giving me up for adoption. At my mother’s funeral, the parish priest said to my father, “The baby needs two parents.” A few minutes later, a woman approached my father and said, “I know someone who will take your baby.”

Gert here…what utter bullshit! Our father KNEW his wife was dying three months BEFORE she died! They talked! They made decisions! Father started negotiations to remarry, with mother’s permission, to a woman who had 2 children and who would help raise his 5 children. BUT…she refused the infant (Joan/Doris). When mother died the decision to place that infant INTO ADOPTION had already been made.

NOTHING was done at the funeral…this is a total falsehood in Joan/Doris’s mind…remember she is mentally ill, by her own admission! NOTHING that Joan/Doris details, at a funeral would have HAPPENED. She is a drama queen and MUST convince everyone that her mind’s details are REAL…but they are NOT.

That woman’s brother and his wife adopted me. I was raised an only child in a happy home. I loved my adoptive parents with childhood innocence. But when I was 18 and still in high school, I was found by four older full blood siblings that my adoptive parents knew I had, but never wanted me to know.

Gert here… that’s true! This also points to Joan/Doris incontinency about her being a Late Discovery Adoptee. She continues to say that she is a Late Discovery Adoptee when she clearly is NOT. She knew from early childhood that she was an adoptee. A Late Discovery Adoptee ONLY LEARNS about being adopted once they REACH ADULTHOOD. This points to Joan/Doris’s constant lying!

 The shock of being betrayed by my adoptive parents, the shock of learning details of my original family and the anger thrown at me by my adoptive mother and extended adoptive family because I was in reunion, complied with the anger and “you should think this” and “you should do this” from extended natural family, well, I imploded. I was in trauma response for decades. Had no inner peace. I didn’t fit in either family. Constant fighting because everyone had their opinions of who and what I should be. But my own feelings, my own needs, were ignored and belittled. My activism was shot down. I was seen as ungrateful and much worse.

Gert here…Oh my Gods…she ‘imploded’! That must explain it then! She imploded parts and pieces all over the place and was put back together all messed up! No wonder she can’t be reasoned with!

Seriously!!! She must have been reading more books to come up with MORE dramatic language to explain her being FOUND! Poor thing, she has no inner peace because she will NOT shut up, she will NOT give it up, she will NOT LET IT GO! The first thing to get healthy is to GIVE IT A REST. But…not this idiot, she NEEDS HER PAIN. She NEEDS HER SELF-FLAGILATION.

 And the kicker? My adoptive parents lived three blocks up and one block over from my father and siblings when they “got me”. My siblings were playing outside; their mother dead and their baby sister went missing. Several months later, my adoptive parents moved out of the city and bought a house 6 miles away. I grew up in isolation, while older relatives in both families knew where I was and spied on me. My father stayed away because the judge told him to stay away from me and my adoptive parents so I “wouldn’t be confused.” Ha! All of the other relatives knew each other, but DON’T TELL THE ADOPTEE ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE IS NEVER SUPPOSED TO KNOW.

Gert here…drama, drama, drama! The KICKER is that we WANTED HER; we siblings contacted her…worst fucking mistake of our collective lives! She is pure evil! Joan/Doris destroyed each and every relationship with members of the birth family with HER behaviors. She poisoned the wells not once but over and over and over again…and then wrote three books!

 Oh yes, one other point. Before her death in 2011, my 95 year old adoptive mother told me that she and my adoptive father felt sorry for my father and siblings. So they bought presents and a Christmas tree for them. In their kind and generous gesture of spreading Christmas Cheer, they made themselves feel better by giving to a needy family at Christmas; but they walked off with the baby.

Gert here…ah YES, there’s always another point; the adoptive mother was a piece of work! She is the one who filled Joan/Doris’s mind with all sorts of negative caricatures and stories about her birth family. The woman was a master manipulator and worked Joan/Doris’s mind right to the bitter end! And Joan/Doris, she couldn’t break away from the crazed manipulator, for she NEEDED the connection! And today, in 2017, she STILL can’t let it go! She MUST repeat and repeat and repeat a LIE.

My father did NOT receive anything from the adoptive parents, EVER. For the adoptive parents, to COME to the home of the child’s parent, would have been a VIOLATION of the adoption order. My father WOULD HAVE SLAMMED THE DOOR IN THEIR FACES, just as he did to Joan/Doris, not once but at least three times that I’m aware of, for VIOLATING his privacies.

My father OBEYED the court order and so did the adoptive parents. If the adoptive mother told this to Joan/Doris she had a REASON to and that reason was most likely to continue the ‘push/pull’ they both could NOT break between them. They had a true sadist/masochistic relationship.

Joan/Doris is STUCK ON THE SHAME OF ADOPTION because she no longer has that sick adoptive mother to argue and bitch with all day long! And so she MUST argue and bitch on the internet…if you believe her you are doomed!

Now here are just some of the many sites were this topic, of the ‘gift’ of a Christmas tree and presents, have been discussed by the birth sisters.

UPDATE NOV 2017; I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!   this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Also see this Facebook page





JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel’s new book never happened!

here’s the background on it…

Inviting Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel to a point-counter-point discussion on Facebook.

Here’s your chance Joan/Doris! Come, discuss your issues with those of us that you hate so much.

Here’s my invite to you

For no particular reason, just a while ago, I checked Joan/Doris’s web page and found an interesting item! A long rant about and to a Jennifer Marsh who left a PM on Joan/Doris’s FB account related to Jeremy and Jenny adopting! Boy! nothing sets Joan/Doris off more than someone ANYONE telling her that they have a different opinion from her!

I INVITE Jennifer Marsh to PM me here on this FACEBOOK PAGE that is dedicated to the words and works of Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel. If anyone, out there, knows Jennifer, please relay this message to her. I also WELCOME Jennifer to post PUBLICALLY wants she wishes to tell Joan/Doris.

I ALSO INVITE Joan/Doris to a point-counter-point on THIS FACEBOOK PAGE. This page is FOR THE DISSECTION OF JOAN/DORIS’ WORDS. So by all means let the AUTHOR speak here! If she DARES to address those that she has maligned and lied about!

Here’s the link to Joan/Doris’ latest rant…

It’s a mind-boggling how Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel rants and raves, year after year…

and NEVER sees, NEVER gets it, NEVER shuts up, NEVER understands that NO ONE IS LISTENING to her and furthermore….NO ONE cares!

Well that’s not entirely true, I care! I care because Joan/Doris exposes and exploits myself and my family and that is WHY I write about what she does.

This post is a list of links of just ONE huge rant of Joan’s to ONE person. I wrote SIX blog posts! It doesn’t matter what year she writes, it’s always the same ranting of a very disturbed person, who causes a lot of damage to others.


‘I understand people’s need for privacy.’ Says Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.


Unfortunately that is FALSE! She is a liar, incapable of telling the truth about her families. Joan hasn’t a clue about anyone’s privacy, for she doesn’t care about others. It’s all about HER and HER privacy, while she fabricates lives about family members, for others, to promote her political agenda against adoption.

On a Facebook group page, Adoption Sucks, on July 10, 2017, someone asked a question; Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?

The Facebook page’s link is…

Now this particular Facebook page is a PUBLIC PAGE. Anyone who writes anything, on any public social media site or on a blog or a comment, anywhere, CANNOT expect privacy. Their postings, comments, likes etc. are OUT THERE for PUBLIC viewings. And of course the same goes for any printed book or e-book and as such is ALWAYS subject to PUBLIC scrutiny and discourse. I myself have two public blogs and one public Facebook page dedicated to the words and works of Joan/Doris. I also have the public right to comment, review and have discussions on Amazon, or any other company, on ANY item they publish and/or sell.

So of course, there were comments on the thread… ‘Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?’ Joan/Doris said some things that went beyond inappropriateness, violating OUR FAMILY’S privacy. Ruth commented.

Ruth wrote a blog about the ‘fallout’. It can be found here…

This post of mine will address more specific points. I will be adding my own observations about the comments after each appears here, in this post, as Gert observes…

Please take NOTE of the times of when Daryl Bergmann posted on Doris Michol Sippel’s comment and when he commented/posted on Ruth’s comment…seems to be some special treatment given to Joan/Doris!

2017 Leslie Dann July 10 at 3:26pm

Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness? I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 19 after I went manic and saw hallucinations. I have been taking my medication for years, faithfully, but this past year I have been hospitalized three times for depression. I don’t know why except there are external factors, such as no support system and a job I’m just doing to get my pension. I told bfather about how I hadn’t been doing so well lately and he hasn’t answered my email. I think if you admit to being unhappy (even if you have a mental illness) they just don’t want to hear it. It upsets their adoption apple cart. Anyone else I would have told that to would have said that they were there to talk or reach out to. Bfather: silence. More disappointment.

Gert observes…

Adoptees are NOT the only people that get NOTHING from family or friends. All I see here is just another self-pity party. I have had many down times in my life, had my cries, and then I got up and just went on. NO I do NOT have any kind of mental illness! And I’ve been fairly healthy all my life. So I’m very GRATEFUL for my life! Personally, I find the over use of social media to self-diagnosis and medicate and have pity-parties rather useless, but hey that’s just me!

Doris Michol Sippel I have C-PTSD, depression, anxiety. My adoptive mother had several diagnosed mental illnesses for which I was treated in order to learn how to cope with her behavior. My adoptive father was her enabler. The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks. My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD. July 16 at 7:59am

Gert observes…

Well, she is narcissistic and therefore cannot help herself…it’s all about her! Joan/Doris’s mental illness mostly likely came from the DRUG that mother was taking during the pregnancy to ‘hold’ the fetus, that and her premature birth…so yes she was damaged in the womb, coupled with, LEARNED BEHAVIORS from the adoptive family and the abuse she suffered from someone in that family. Life can be a bitch! And reading too many book etc. can create things in our minds that are not really there…we all make own forms of hell!

Joan/Doris does NOT have any evidence for her claim that the birth family had any kind of mental illnesses; diagnosed or un-diagnosed. To state this is yet another one of her lies and fabrications to justify her version of how she was treated by ANYONE. She has been telling lies and fabrications all over the Internet and in PRINT for decades. To ‘sue’ her would be useless, that is why we have blogs to counter her lies.

NO ONE in the birth family even attacked her! YES, she was argued with, yelled at, told to shut up, get lost, was KICKED out of several birth families’ homes, including at least 5 times by father BEFORE she got the hint and stopped; that’s why she wrote the book in the first place, to get even for some perceived harms. But, no one even attacked her, in any way. She is her own worst enemy! She never takes RESPONSIBILITY for any of her own words or deeds.

Just because she claims a ‘thing’ doesn’t mean it happened! She has claimed many absurdities and none are true! She NEVER thought that the birth siblings would counter her book! She didn’t count on the reality of pay-back from those she maligned. She would NEVER have heard from me again once I divorced her in 1980, but NO, she had to…write and published a book, a lying book, in 2009. Since that time birth siblings have been and will continue to expose her words and deeds…that is NOT attacking its KARMA BABY.

Daryl Bergmann I note that you have identified no members of your natural blood family by name nor stated which side may suffer, maternal or paternal.  😉 Not asking, only making an observation.  · July 17 at 1:32am

Gert observes…

NOTE the time of this comment of Daryl’s (July 17 @ 1:32 pm). He placed that comment AFTER he was alerted to Ruth’s comment and after Joan/Doris’s ‘comeback’ of July 17 at 12:05am

Beyond that, EVERYONE knows who Joan/Doris’s birth family members are, for SHE publicly NAMED us years ago! So Daryl if you are making an observation, perhaps the clue you MISSED was the NAMES!

As Ruth said, in other places, Joan/Doris… promotes her ‘adoption’ with ‘a picture of her two dead birth parents as her personal mascots’! Those two parents are OURS! Joan/Doris OUTED us decades ago and continues to use our parents as PERSONAL MASCOTS!

BTW…just because someone CAN sue doesn’t mean that they CAN! Joan/Doris doesn’t have a cent to her name, nothing of $$$ value to get from a law-suit, and she doesn’t have the $$$ to sue anyone…so the point is mute. She said, we said! She writes a book or two or three, we have a blog or two or three. Our READERSHIP far exceeds her sales and readership of her books. NO author in mainstream adoption reform PROMOTES her works or gets her at conferences and there’s no movie producer looking to make a movie out of her book/life; clue here…that was her BIGGEST dream, to have a movie made of her life… oh excuse me…OUR LIVES!

Daryl Bergmann Yeah. Doris doesn’t mention a name. Then boom, immediately on the defense to deny any form of mental illness pops up Ruth with a prepared novel for that exact purpose. Says a lot. Far more than intended. Adoption really does suck.  · July 16 at 3:50pm

Gert observes…

As I just said, what everyone seems to FORGET is that Doris doesn’t have to MENTION a name, for she has been spreading falsehoods about birth family members for years and she wrote THREE books about us! Ruth, or anyone else, has the RIGHT to confront the statements said about her and her family, as do I! Just as the Facebook page Adoption Sucks has its own opinions on the subject of adoption, OTHERS have their own opinions and rights to object to falsehoods, whether Daryl or others object. Yes of course, he has the right to monitor the page etc. but that doesn’t give him any position to lessen or DEMEAN Ruth’s opinions or position.

Let’s remember that Joan/Doris has her own ‘prepared novel for that exact purpose’ and she uses it every time she goes to pro-adoption sites or adoptive parent sites or any place that she opposes. If Joan can do it, so can Ruth! Remember public viewings are subject to public opinions and sharing…Deal with it!

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I am Ruth Sippel Pace – birth sister of Doris Michol Sippel – I do not have any mental illness. I recently retired from a 43 year career as a Patient Care Assistant at a large metropolitan general hospital. During those 43 years, I worked on several me…See More  July 16 at 1:49pm

Gert observes…

Remember to see Ruth’s blog post (link above) for the full text of the thread. There was NOTHING wrong with Ruth identifying herself while coming forth and putting truth to a malicious lie! It seems to me that hate-filled adoptees DO NOT want to see the damage that they do to family members. Double standards here!

Doris Michol Sippel In case you all are wondering where I’ve been…I’ve been quietly living my life today. Breakfast, laundry, church, lunch with a friend, grocery shopping, answered long distance phone call, prepared for work tomorrow, went to an outdoor concert, came back to this. Yes, I long ago blocked Ruthie and Gert so I cannot see their comments. All I see are the words of others talking to Ruth. Imagine being found at age 18 in 1974 by these weird women! I was in my senior year of high school, got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy. I still cannot understand why we all have made it clear many decades ago that we want nothing to do with each other – and they still hunt me down. I do nothing to them.They attack other adoptees. …Ruth is 63 or 64, Gert is 70. I am 61. You see the content of my writing. Who has mental illness? Who admits to struggling? Me. As Daryl Bergmann said, NOT ME. Who is in denial?   · July 17 at 12:05am

Gert observes…

Oh yes we were wondering, so how very nice of her to show us all her ‘normal everyday life’! Typical technique of hers, the birth family knows them all too well, as do those that she has doubled crossed. Yes, this is how Joan/Doris continues with her unique brand of demonizing those that ‘found’ her as she spins her tale of being just a normal gal.

Right, her sisters are ‘weird women’. She ‘got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy’! Wow! Isn’t that terrible? We four siblings and then father, only FOUND her so we could manipulate her into our problems! Right, sure, tell me another fairy tale! And OUR anger swept up and gathered Joan/Doris into a whirlwind that she HAD to lash back at! Yep, right, ok! wink, wink, So thanks for clarify that for me as I wasn’t paying any attention to HER seeing that SHE violated my privacy and my children’s etc.!

And therapy? She was in it BEFORE we knew her! She’s been in it for her ENTIRE LIFE! That’s a sure sign of mentally illness that is NOT controlled. She uses her conditions to promote her negative agenda against adoption…but hey go have your fun!

She may have blocked us long ago, but she still READS our blogs and adjusts what she says and prints accordingly. I know for I’ve dissected her writing now and see those changes with EACH version of that lying book of hers and various things she blogs about! She even imitates our choices of words and phrases. BUT unless a person makes Joan/Doris a subject to watch you would NOT know that!

We don’t have anything to do with her! I haven’t seen her since 1992! We just tell the truth to her lies! That is what she can’t stop! Hunt her down!!?? There’s a mental illness speaking here! We don’t attack other adoptees! We do comment to and about adoptees just like millions of other people do.

Joan/Doris is SO INTO numbers, dates, ages, years of this that and the other thing. Is there something special here I’m missing? Oh yeah…she’s been at this a long time, so she knows what she’s talking about…wait I have to vomit!

Ruth and I are NOT denying a thing! We are NOT mentally ill, no one in our family has been, except JOAN/DORIS and I already told HOW that happened.

If Ruth can hold a job for 43 years and I could hold a job for 37 years how did we MANAGE that if we were mentally ill?? (btw I RETIRED EARLY so if I had worked till 65 I would have had 43 years as well…but I took a pension early!)

Joan/Doris had NEVER HELD a job long, is on disability because of her mental illness. Whom would you believe?

Daryl Bergmann She wasn’t even named, and she posts a diatribe demanding the “slanderous and libelous” post (slander is a verbal spoken statement made with one’s mouth and vocal cords – hard to do that in a typed post) be removed. As she was not identified in any way, there is no libel either. This administrator will be leaving all ‘evidence’ as is.   July 17 at 1:08am

Gert observes…

Let it be known that Joan/Doris herself has claimed that she has been victimized by ‘slanderous and libelous’ posts by her birth siblings. EVERYONE knows the different between the two words, Daryl. Obviously you NEEDED something to contribute to throw at Ruth! Daryl would do WELL to read everything that Joan/Doris has written to LEARN about her. Then, read the ‘other side of things’, our blogs, comments and reviews, to LEARN the truth. But you are not interested in that…of course.

As I’ve stated several times here, Joan/Doris USES our family name, she has identified us EVERY WHERE. It is common knowledge to hateful and angry adoptees whom are her siblings. If YOU didn’t know that that just shows your ignorance of Joan/Doris. We are GLAD that you have kept the ‘evidence’ for that makes it and keeps it in that PUBLIC SPACE that is available to all, not just adoptees. If you think that there are none that find these comments offensive then you really don’t know all your viewers and certainly not mine!

Doris Michol Sippel Can anyone copy and paste all comments, including Ruth’s comments, in a Word doc and email the whole thread to me? … Thank you. July 17 at 12:07am

Gert observes…

If Joan/Doris doesn’t want anything to do with us, then WHY does she want a copy of what Ruth said here? Why, because she believes that she is UNDER ATTACK and it’s her ‘evidence’. Joan has no concept that it is she who has VIOLATED the birth family’s PRIVACY, not only here, but everywhere! Whenever Joan/Doris speaks about her birth family she violates their privacy! She does it to her adoptive family as well. Joan doesn’t GET IT that she is ATTACKING us when she negates our positions and opinions, when she resorts to name-calling and with her volumes of lies and fabrications. She cannot accept that we will COUNTER her lies! So did everyone get Joan/Doris’s email address?? She made it PUBLIC!

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe I hope it’s OK for me to put in that I for one would like to know what would be done with that document. Could it be anonymized?   July 17 at 7:48am

Gert observes…

And why is this person CONCERNED? Is she worried that she will be named? Well…yes she is being named…I expose all those that give support to Joan/Doris’s attacks upon me and family.

Doris Michol Sippel I’d like a full account of what Ruth wrote. Yes, it could be anonymized. And, someone already copied it for me. Thank you. I’m sorry my adoption peeps have to see this harassment. I don’t see why my life is such an obsession with Ruth and Gert. · July 17 at 5:38pm

Gert observes…

Harassment??!!! Yep that what she thinks opposing opinions are! Anyone who continues to put TRUTH to Joan/Doris’s lies is harassing her!

I don’t see why my life is such an obsession with Ruth and Gert.’ Joan/Doris your life is NOT an obsession with us…we don’t give one THOUGHT about your life! Your life means NOTHING to us! What we do CARE ABOUT is your constant violation of our privacy and your continued lying and fabricating. We also CARE ABOUT you USING, EXPOSING AND EXPLOITING our PARENTS!

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Thank you! I’m glad the request wasn’t offensive.  July 17 at 6:09pm

Gert observes…

Why would this person think her request was offensive? Perhaps she has a bit of a conscious? Like, perhaps maybe Joan/Doris is in the WRONG to be asking for a copy of comment by a person that she has BANNED AND BLOCKED. If Joan/Doris wants to see what Ruth or Gert has to say, perhaps she ought to come out from under that rock and face us like a woman and not some cheap cheat!

Doris Michol Sippel Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Not at all. I understand people’s need for privacy. July 18 at 8:27am

Gert observes…

Two faced forked tongue that Joan/Doris is! Anyone can see that by her request for a copy of a person’s comment, which she blocked, that Joan/Doris is a coward! And then hides behind false virtue!

Unlike mentally ill people, who take meds and/or are in therapy, can’t hold down a job, can’t accept their life, and can’t accept opposing opinions or those that don’t agree with them…SANE, rational people see the truth, reality, are NOT afraid of voicing their objections to their privacy being violated, exposed and exploited for some pet project of the mentally ill individual and friends. Joan/Doris does not get a ‘free get out of jail’ card because she admits she is mentally ill. She gets the distinction of NON-credibility!



she should finish that sentence thusly: “I understand people’s need for privacy, except my birth sisters – or my entire birth family, Or my adopted family – or my ex-husband, or anybody (including angry adoptees) who pissed me off in my life — I will plaster their names and lie about them all over my libelous book and the internet.