Review #13 for Duped by Adoption; Adoption, a view from the other side #11 or 12 Larry Beahan

Joan M Wheeler has been enlisting friends that think like her or whom she has conned, into writing reviews and counter-commenting to the birth sisters and/or to delete our comments!

Joan must have certain types of friends; for without them, to boast her self-interests, she is nothing and will amount to nothing. This is a sign of narcissistic behavior; the only person of value to them is someone they can use/con.

So who are these friends? Well Joan only has two groups; adoptees that think like her and selective people she has conned (like Brian Maloney) that include members of a writer’s group. Naturally those that are not adoptees must believe in the same ‘party line’ that Joan feeds them or they are of no use to her. We have seen how Joan uses people, like Brian, and once they are of no use to Joan, she tosses them aside.

Members of this group  http://northsidewriters.com/members.html  of which Joan is a member, have written reviews of Joan’s book. Fred Tomasello Jr (review #1) Ruth Willerth (review #12), Larry Beahan (review #13)

Where are the adoptees? Those that have reviewed and/or commented, in the past, know enough when to back away. Many others have distanced themselves from Joan long ago. Joan really is a marginalized adoptee. One also wonders, where are other people, to write reviews of this non-book? The only ones so far are Joan’s friends, her birth sisters and adoptees that think like Joan.

So, here is review #13…

Adoption, a view from the other side.

By Larry Beahan on January 23, 2016  Format: Paperback Verified Purchase

Joan Mary Wheeler gives us an eye-opening, other, view of adoption. At first glance, giving a baby a clean-slate new start in a family where she is wanted and erasing the past, seems like absolutely the right thing to do. But what if you are that infant and eventually discover you are not who you thought you were and the law denies you access to your real identity? What if you’d simply like to know if alzheimer’s runs in your genetic line?
Or God forbid what if your two families want to squabble about who you belong to. I can now see Ms Wheeler’s case for doing away with all this secrecy about adoption and yet I feel strongly for adoptive parents who want to make an adopted child into one of their own blood. Read this amazing book and get a look at the other side of adoption.

As a side note; Larry placed his review, as a comment, on Fred’s review; that’s review #one. That’s what gave it away…that Larry and Fred know each other! A quick check of the writer’s group brought out Ruth Willerth’s name as well. Birds of a feather…

My reply….Your initial post: Jan 23, 2016 5:13:25 PM PST

gert mcqueen says:

Many do not deny, me included, that there is a great need for medical/heritage records for adoptees. Wheeler would have done better, for her cause of open adoption records, by NOT writing falsehoods about her two families; particularly when there are so many facts that disprove her stories! There’s nothing amazing about this pitiful book!
So she was adopted! The laws, as they exist, state certain conditions…no member of either family, violated the rule of law. Change the way laws are written, by going via proper channels. Writing falsehoods about family members certainly will never change the laws. People that have the power to make changes, in the adoption laws, read this book and see the need to keep records closed.

Because of the author’s palpable hatred she has no compassion for anyone who adopts! Larry you said, `yet I feel strongly for adoptive parents who want to make an adopted child into one of their own blood.’ Wheeler cares not about the sacred parent/child relationship? What grounds did that was there to violate another’s decision to adopt their own 16 year old? Because, she said, adoption would change his birth certificate? Not her decision or opinion to make! Because she was banned from the children, she fabricated false child abuse reports. Nice going! Regular folks have enough brains to decide, for themselves, whether adoption is right for them, for others, or not at all; they certainly don’t need to have some kind of fabricated drama trumped up by an angry adoptee.

Larry Beahan says: Jan 24 ON FRED’S REVIEW

All this controversy about “Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption” must be creating a lot of interest in the book. They say there is no such thing as bad publicity when it comes to selling books. If only Ms Wheeler could get “banned in Boston” there would be a movie made of it with in the year.

in reply on Jan 24, 2016 5:28:11 AM PST

gert mcqueen says: ON FRED’S REVIEW

The interest in the book is limited to supporters of the author and those that are not; both circles are quite small! Bad publicity, like garbage, is indeed a negative thing! But, selling books and having a movie of her life is all the author has ever wanted! So by all means…go for it, knock yourselves out! Go after it with gusto! Save me the best seat in the house!

^^^^

As I’ve pointed out, these members of the writer’s group, belong to the same group that is enchanted with Joan’s version of her life. Guaranteed, if those three individuals ever saw Joan in real action they’d head for the hills to get away from her. But Joan is very clever and knows how to turn on the charm, be it to man or woman. Joan is a user and an abuser.

I can only show what is current at any given time, and as the idiots keeping coming on.

here is the current list

Permalink to my discussions:  http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_hdp_fp_cq?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

1)     https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-one-1-of-3/

2)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-two-2-of-3/

3)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/3-of-3-what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-three/

4)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/i-interrupt-my-sequence-of-3-reviews-and-my-comments-to-bring-you-this-newest-one-too-good-to-wait/

5)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/review-number-five-5-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-e-book-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-and-my-initial-comment/

6)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/review-six-6-of-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-by-joan-m-wheeler/

7)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/review-7-of-joan-m-wheelers-revised-edition-of-her-garbage-book-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-says-the-book-describes-the-pain-of-being-a-victim/

8)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/review-number-eight-8-of-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption/

9)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/no-doubt-about-it-joan-m-wheelers-latest-revision-of-forbidden-family-duped-by-adoption-is-an-eye-opening-book-she-is-her-own-worst-enemy-and-she-doesnt-even-k/

10)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/review-10-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-people-do-see-behind-her-curtain/

11)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/04/review-11of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-not-everyone-is-duped/

12) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-12-or-is-it-11-of-joans-disgusting-book-duped-by-adoption/

13) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-13-for-duped-by-adoption-adoption-a-view-from-the-other-side/

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Review # 12, or is it #11? of Joan’s disgusting book; Duped by Adoption #11 Ruth Willerth

Actually it is #12, as it came after Ruth Pace’s review, which was #11.

Dark Side of Adoption is written by a Ruth Willerth. She wrote a review for Joan’s first piece of garbage, years back and apparently hasn’t ‘gotten’ with the latest trend of Joan’s propaganda.

A strange thing happened as this review appeared; Ruth Pace’s (my sister) review was REMOVED and ALL of my comments were REMOVED! I will confess that I was flabbergasted when I saw that and immediately wrote a ‘comment’, which I neglected to copy. That comment was removed by Amazon, as I apparently violated ‘guidelines’. Later I did write another comment and Ruth Pace reposted her review and added a comment; they are presented here, in this post.

It needs to be noted that my comments are being routinely deleted, on this review and on others…obviously they (Joan and company) want to silence the birth sisters…again. But getting back this REVIEW

Ruth Willerth apparently has a unique view of what Joan Wheeler’s positions on adoption and birth certificates are, as well as certain political figures!

Make no mistake; Joan Wheeler’s books(S) have NOTHING to do with changing the political climate about and over ADOPTION AND BIRTH CERTIFICATES. Joan’s book is totally about her PERCEPTIONS of members of her birth and adoptive families. Joan’s book is not and never shall be a mover for political changes!

Now from Amazon…

Dark Side of Adoption  By Ruth Willerth on January 21, 2016

The dark side of adoption. Read her first edition of her book, back when Trump was vetting Obama’s birth certificate and learned a lot. This revised version is even better written. It’s a true story on how when America changed it rules to remove the stigma of being born a bastard, America did so with a lie. Nothing good comes from a lie.

gert mcqueen commented

Nothing good comes from a lie! This rewrite has nothing to do with birth certificates or reforming adoption, the author removed all those aspects. This book is about the author’s perceptions of her life and those in 2 families and her presentations are far from being truthful.

Ruth Pace commented

Nothing Good Comes From a Lie – yes, but this book is NOT the truth. This book was previously removed from print by Trafford Publications because I sent them actual police and court documents that proved that 1. she libeled me in the book. 2. she did not protect my identity – in a footnote she told her readers (all 10 of them) where to find an article she wrote in 1990 that contained my full and true name. 3. She had on the back cover a family photo that was taken a year before she was born. — She signed a contract with Trafford stating that her non-fiction book was the truth, but my documents proved she lied, and the contract also stated that the author holds the sole copyright to the work and all it’s content – how does she hold the sole copyright to a photo that was taken before she was born? Because she violated the contract she signed with them, the publisher pulled it from print.
She also claimed that a lawyer “vetted” the book. No, because she says in the book that my father was a poor uneducated man, however in 1955, he took a job as a civil engineer in the streets paving department of the City of Buffalo, working in City Hall, and had many political persons as personal friends. Joan’s “lawyer” was either a piss-poor vetter, or a figment of Joan’s imagination. Why do I call this lawyer a piss-poor vetter? Because in the downtown public library of Buffalo NY are back issues of Polk’s City Directories – that list my father’s name, address, employer and his job title in the directories from oh, the late 40’s all onto the 2000’s.

Ruth Willerth says:

Read all your comments. Agree that Forbidden Family is a tale about how a mixed up girl became an adoption abolitionist. The protagonist according to the chapter one, grew up as an only child, knowing she was adopted, wishing that she had siblings for most of her life. Because she decided to try to find out about her biological father, she got exactly what she had been asking for: a much bigger family.

Supporting Chapters show that “only children” lack the skill sets developed by living with brothers and sisters. And to top off suddenly not liking having family, the protagonist found out that everyone in both families knew all about her adoption. She was not on the need-to-know-list and devastation set in.

Once the protagonist’s defining moment has been established, it’s easy to follow on loosing her trust of the people she always held sacred turned tragic for both families. As the plot progresses, Forbidden Family matures into a tale where the protagonist struggles for redemption leading to her idealist quest to fix the laws on how America adopts children.

Gert replied

Have you noticed that the author does not mention the existence of that first book! Joan Wheeler has gone out of her way to avoid the mention of that first book. Therefore, I want to thank you for bringing that fact out. Considering that the author has been distancing herself from that book, and has removed 4 chapters from this ‘new’ book, that dealt with the issue of birth certificates, I wonder if Joan appreciates what you have said! The author’s story-telling, of members of two families, are not presented truthfully. To quote you, Ruth W, Nothing good comes from a lie.

I totally disagree with your assessment of the plot (there is NO plot) and protagonist (just a angry person) and considering that many of the episodes never took place, or if they did, certainly not in the ways they are described, coupled with the deliberate attempts to portray everyone to be a monster to the poor child/adult/adoptee. Every relationship that the author had was destroyed by her own behaviors. Existing facts over ride what the book details.

^^^^^^^

Let’s now really take a look at what Ruth Willerth said…

The dark side of adoption. Read her first edition of her book, back when Trump was vetting Obama’s birth certificate and learned a lot. This revised version is even better written. It’s a true story on how when America changed it rules to remove the stigma of being born a bastard, America did so with a lie. Nothing good comes from a lie.

My comments, about her statement, here on this blog post…

That’s THE problem, this reviewer and others BELIEVE just what Joan tells them, from her perception, adoption has a ‘dark’ side. There may be some aspects that need reform but that is no excuse to exploit family members! Joan isn’t interested in reform and Ruth W, doesn’t get that!

So Ruth W. read Joan’s first book! And yes, years back there was that controversy over Obama’s birth certificate. Joan wrote an article in the Buffalo News about it. Joan and her gang of ‘friends’ went far over the top. I remember that their comments they were presenting were very dangerous. Joan started to ‘attack’, on line, myself and sister Ruth, when we spoke up. Eventually the entire comment section was deleted and CLOSED. This is the kind of danger that happens when you have idiots posting things they know nothing about.

Ruth W is under the misunderstanding that Joan’s book/story has something to do with America changing rules! It has NOTHING what so ever to do with America and adoption rules but everything to do with Joan’s hatred and anger!

Here is Ruth W’s earlier review of the first book;

Timely Informative, May 23, 2011 By Ruth Willerth

This review is from: Forbidden Family (Paperback)

Forbidden Family by Joan M Wheeler is timely considering it took the resources of Donald Trump to make public President Obama’s birth certificate. I’m so glad to find out that he really is an American. I live in the part of America that must produce whatever forms government says we must like birth certificates, social security cards, photo id… Being one of millions of Americans not understanding Hawaii seals all birth certificates from the public, I wonder… How the public would respond if our president was adopted so had two conflicting birth certificates?

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As you see, Ruth W, only has a focus on the birth certificate aspects, she is incapable of reading and seeing the truth of what Joan Wheeler has written, that is why there are COMMENTS to reviews, to provide a balance.

And Ruth W. proves my very points when she says…

‘As the plot progresses, Forbidden Family matures into a tale where the protagonist struggles for redemption leading to her idealist quest to fix the laws on how America adopts children.’

Oh brother! People really do not know how to read with a critical thinking mind. Joan Wheeler obviously has a following that sees her as a great redeemer of those ‘dark sides’ of adoption! There is none so blind as they that refuse to see!

I shall continue to write against Joan M Wheeler for her slandering and misrepresenting me and my family.

NOW it is to be well noted that members of this group, http://northsidewriters.com/members.html   of which Joan is a member, have also written reviews of Joan’s book. Fred Tomasello Jr (review #1) Ruth Willerth (review #12), Larry Beahan (review #13)

AND various comments have been deleted, reworked and deleted…etc

and here is the list

Permalink to my discussions:  http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_hdp_fp_cq?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

1)     https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-one-1-of-3/

2)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-two-2-of-3/

3)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/3-of-3-what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-three/

4)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/i-interrupt-my-sequence-of-3-reviews-and-my-comments-to-bring-you-this-newest-one-too-good-to-wait/

5)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/review-number-five-5-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-e-book-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-and-my-initial-comment/

6)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/review-six-6-of-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-by-joan-m-wheeler/

7)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/review-7-of-joan-m-wheelers-revised-edition-of-her-garbage-book-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-says-the-book-describes-the-pain-of-being-a-victim/

8)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/review-number-eight-8-of-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption/

9)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/no-doubt-about-it-joan-m-wheelers-latest-revision-of-forbidden-family-duped-by-adoption-is-an-eye-opening-book-she-is-her-own-worst-enemy-and-she-doesnt-even-k/

10)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/review-10-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-people-do-see-behind-her-curtain/

11)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/04/review-11of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-not-everyone-is-duped/

12) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-12-or-is-it-11-of-joans-disgusting-book-duped-by-adoption/

13) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-13-for-duped-by-adoption-adoption-a-view-from-the-other-side/

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What does Joan M Wheeler do on the eve of her 60th birthday?

Celebrate? Relax? Be with friends? Contemplate? Of course not! We know that she had a lousy Christmas, so her birthday must have been a great one?! Not!

No she searches the Internet looking for something to blow her stack over…and she found one.

In the following news story, she browbeats people over the evils of ADOPTION! She uses her ‘mantra’ that ONLY THE USE OF GUARDIANSHIP is acceptable! Her drum beat is… adoption is legal identity theft! On and on and on and on…keeping this up, her life span is very limited! She has NO LIFE in her LIFE. All she has is her constant refrain…the evils of adoption! (Joan is ‘adopteefedup’ on yahoo)

I saw the following January 7, 2016, comments speak for themselves, the time noted are when I captured and commented on the post.

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/in-praise-of-duck-dynasty-clans-adoption-of-teen-184101404.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

adopteefedup 20 hours ago

I’m sorry, Adam. I’ve learned a lot from you over the years. I appreciate our friendship and professionalism. However, adoption is not the answer. And you know why.

Adoption without the ownership papers, without the change of title, without legally changing the child’s parents on paper, without the change of the child’s name, without the falsification of a new birth certificate, without the revocation and sealing of the child’s actual birth certificate, the legal process to take in a child who needs a home and parental figures and love is called Guardianship.

Guardianship respects the child’s name at birth. Guardianship respects that the child has one mother and one father. Period. Guardianship keeps the child’s birth certificate intact and does not replace it with a false one. Guardianship does not revoke the official certification of child’s actual birth certificate. Nor does Guardianship seal the child’s actual birth certificate forever.

Adoption is legal identity theft.

No amount of love is worth the erasure of one’s natural-born identity.

Then I commented…

Gert 4 minutes ago

Adopteefedup is just that…fed up because she hates adoption, wants to eliminate it from the face of the globe. I doubt very much that she has a ‘friendship’ with Adam Pertman and as far as ‘professionalism’ is concerned, adopteefedup doesn’t know the first thing about professionalism. The only thing she knows how to do is GO AFTER people that adopt! She did it to me! Violated my parental rights and authority, when I ADOPTED, because she hates adoption!

Guardianship does NOT always work or it is NOT feasible. It was NOT USED by her birth family for some of the many reasons that guardianship can NOT be USED by many birth families. ADOPTION was the only acceptable choice by her birth family! She hates adoption, that is why she is ‘fedup’. She never accepted the love of the adoptive family and when she had the birth family she destroyed all the LOVE.

End of comments

And so we see that in the 60th year of Joan’s life, she has NOTHING better to do with her life!

She has a ‘mission impossible’ to rid the world of ADOPTION.

What a shame! What a waste! But hey that’s her choice, so she ought NOT bitch when others call her on her BS.

Joan M Wheeler has just reached a significant birth date; #60

Happy Birthday Joan! How many more years are you going to waste on hate and anger?

I’ve lived long enough now to know that there are several ‘significant’ birthdates; 30, 50, 60 and…

Well I can NOT project beyond 60 as I am still IN my 60s; not for long… but still…

I made several significant life-changes in my 50s. The best thing I ever did for myself was to do yoga. After 5 years of general yoga, in 2003, age 56, I began my journey into Ashtanga yoga and my life has NOT been the same since! On the eve of my 70s I am physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually more than I have ever been in my life! And I’m not done yet! My partner,  76, is a 3rd degree Black Belt! Continuing on, by the time he is 80 he will have what Willy Nelson has; a ‘master’s degree’ in Karate!

In any life, there are times when one will be hateful and angry, but…when it comes down to LIVING LIFE…who has time to be angry and hateful…all the time? There’s anger and hate and then there’s anger and hate! Joan just doesn’t know, that the kind she has, will led her to an early grave. How do I know? Just look at what she says, over and over again. She’s angry because she’s adopted! She hates adoption! She thinks (!) she is helping reform adoption…NOT…because she wants to abolish an institution that will exist as long as humans are around. She is NOT interested in reform so therefore she hates and is angry.

Joan always talks about her age; she’s been doing adoption reform for x amount of years…bullshit! She’s been an activist for x amount of years…double bullshit. She knows this and that…triple bullshit! Joan is KILLING herself and she don’t even know it! (yes I know I used the wrong word)

I’ve known several women who at age 50 began NEW careers, going to school and then working for another 20 years for a second retirement! I’ve known and do know many women in their 60s, 70s, and 80s that are amazingly physically ACTIVE as well as mentally active! Many are VOLUNTEERS, doing for others, can’t do that if you hate and are angry every day. I know many women who hold down TWO jobs and maintain their families! I was able to retire, with full retirement at age 60 and SS at age 62. I am fortunate and am thankful for my blessings. I also must be careful and cautious for I’m only human. I have had medical conditions and most likely will have more. Life is good, but I know that that can change in a MOMENT. So I don’t have the luxury of hating and being angry all the time! Apparently Joan can!

Of course, I’ve known and know many women, and men, who are aged and old and dying LONG before they should have! Why? In most cases they did NOT listen to their bodies and souls and did NOT make significant life-style changes. Joan blames her illnesses on ADOPTION, so I guess that makes her SPECIAL and immune?!

Age 60 is the first mile-stone of ‘old age’.  In today’s world, if a person has NOT made significant life-style changes in their 50s, by the time they are 60, the chances that they reach 70, with a good ‘quality’ of life, they are for all practical purposes, already living a prolonged death. In Joan’s case, she has a life-time of serious medical/psychological illness and she has DONE NOTHING to eliminate the cause of them; her hatred and anger. Joan lives FOR her anger and hate!

Some people, men and women alike, will have serious medically issues and live a slow death and die within a few years either side of retirement; I’ve seen that happen many times. I’ve seen and know many people in their 70s who do NOTHING but stay on the computer or lay around the house, going nowhere, doing nothing. I see many, in my personal life and life around me, that are in their 60s, 70s, and yes 80s that are very angry, hateful and bitter, about what-ever and have a very dismal existence. I live in senior housing and I’ve seen it all! Their quality of life is what they sowed! And continue to sow!

My quality of life is what I make it! Your quality of life is what you make it!

Forget about aspects of socio-economic difference; some fall, other rise! Life is NOT AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EVENT. The fates, or gods, give you a life, you make it or you don’t. Laying blame on this, that and the other thing is NOT going to get you a better quality of life. Play the cards you were dealt with and LIVE YOUR LIFE; without hate and anger.

Recently the following post, of mine, from 2012, was looked at. As I ‘re-read’ it struck me just how stuck Joan is in her anger and hate. She really doesn’t have long to live with those energies. And if she does live long, her life with NOT be of any kind of good quality. She has created her OWN cells and is and will continue to live with what she has sown within her own body.

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/why-did-joans-reunion-go-bad-was-it-because-of-joan-or-was-it-because-of-those-nasty-birth-sisters-or-was-it-just-doomed-from-the-start-part-two/

I said…

‘There really isn’t a whole lot that can be said about Joan’s ranting and raving…but if one pays close attention, to her words, you can see, not only her anger, but the various kinds of negative self-talk she has used for decades, and how she attempts to overturn those negative statements. Only problem is, is that it is ingrained in her very cells! She can not remove the negative aspects of her self-talk or her behavior any more than she can change the color of her skin! She is what she is and she will never change. Unless…she learns to drop all the hate and anger and remove the two hateful lying blogs against the birth family and then learn to accept her lot in life…that she was adopted!’

Note…the ‘two hateful blogs’ are still up and running! As well as a second BOOK! And her constant telling about how horrible her life is because of being adopted!

NOW Joan can change things…as I said…by DROPING the hate and anger…but will she?

My guess is NO, for Joan is in LOVE WITH HER PAIN. Don’t take my word for it…read this…

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2015/June/The-Deadly-Consequences-of-Unforgiveness/

anyway…as long as Joan continues to spread lies I shall continue to counter them with the truth.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOAN!  Your death is just around that corner, how’s that hate and anger going to help you on your death bed? Who is going to hold your hand, then?

Current list of blog posts related to reviews about DUPED BY ADOPTION

As a member of the ‘birth family’, my life, my children’s lives, my entire family’s lives, along with the lives of the adopted parents family, mostly the MOTHER, have been maligned in this revisited (revised over and over again) by one, Joan M Wheeler, hater of adoption, her two families and ANYONE who is in the least bit pro-adoption.

None of us, which are WRITTEN about in this garbage book, were given prior knowledge that OUR lives would be written about, we had NO input into the contents of the bookS (plural books), we gave NO permission for our lives to be discussed, slandered and libeled, and fabricated like a soap opera!

And so…we do what we have been doing and must do…write blog posts exposing the dirty deeds of Joan M Wheeler.

At this time, 6 January 2016, there are 11 reviews, with several comments, and blog posts that I have written about each. The links to MY BLOG POSTS are in this post.

In addition I have currently four discussion topics on Amazon, related to various contents of the book (chapter and verse). More to come as time permits. I SHALL address everything in this book, one way or another. It is my life’s mission to address every lie that Joan has written about myself and my family! She didn’t learn the first time around…and so we go at it again! Until she STOPS.

So, after you take a look and read my blog posts, on these reviews, check out my ‘discussion’ topics for the book. And by all means CONTRIBUTE to the discussions. These discussions are about WHAT actually is in the book and WHAT it all means, on a professional analytical fashion. Any author’s words, and work, ought to hold up to critical thinking and analysis.

Permalink to my discussions:  http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_hdp_fp_cq?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

And links to my blog posts on the reviews…

1)     https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-one-1-of-3/

2)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-two-2-of-3/

3)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/3-of-3-what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-three/

4)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/i-interrupt-my-sequence-of-3-reviews-and-my-comments-to-bring-you-this-newest-one-too-good-to-wait/

5)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/review-number-five-5-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-e-book-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-and-my-initial-comment/

this reviewer deleted their review

6)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/review-six-6-of-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-by-joan-m-wheeler/

7)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/review-7-of-joan-m-wheelers-revised-edition-of-her-garbage-book-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-says-the-book-describes-the-pain-of-being-a-victim/

8)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/review-number-eight-8-of-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption/

9)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/no-doubt-about-it-joan-m-wheelers-latest-revision-of-forbidden-family-duped-by-adoption-is-an-eye-opening-book-she-is-her-own-worst-enemy-and-she-doesnt-even-k/

10)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/review-10-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-people-do-see-behind-her-curtain/

11)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/04/review-11of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-not-everyone-is-duped/

12) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-12-or-is-it-11-of-joans-disgusting-book-duped-by-adoption/

13) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/review-13-for-duped-by-adoption-adoption-a-view-from-the-other-side/

with a couple of deleted reviews…the current count is 12

12a) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/05/12/a-new-12-review-for-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheeler-right-after-one-reviewer-bails-out-another-takes-their-place-gosh/

12b) https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/06/03/the-second-go-round-of-review-12-of-and-about-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption/

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Discussion topics on Amazon about Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption

To view my current discussion topics on this book; here are a couple of Q&A’s from Amazon and then the titles of my current four discussions.

How do I find and read a discussion? On product pages, under Customer Discussions, you will find a list of the most recently active discussions about a product.

How do I get back to a specific post? Each post has a “permalink” link, a direct pointer to an individual post in a discussion. You can click this link and add it to your favorite bookmarks, or copy it from your browser’s address bar and send it in e-mail. You can also find conversations and feedback attached to individual customers’ product reviews (or other features on Amazon.com). Click on the “Comments” link at the bottom of a review to see what other customers have said.

See…Customer Discussions

Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum

Gert Mcqueen’s discussion topics. Just click and the link should take you right there.

about the FORWARD.

Author’s description of what’s in the book.

changes in what’s in the book, about the author and bio sections

about the author and biography

or here is the general link

Permalink to my discussions:  http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_hdp_fp_cq?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

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Review #11 (that was deleted)…of Joan M Wheeler’s garbage book; not everyone is DUPED! Ruth Pace

Those that are family, either birth or adoptive, know just what is IN the book, WHAT the book is all about and WHY the author insists that it be OUT THERE! This book has no redeeming quality…none, zero, zilch, nothing! This book is just the ramblings of an old, hateful, angry individual, who hates!

Here we have Ruth’s first comments about this piece of trash, along with a comment from me.

By Ruth Pace on January 4, 2016

Format: Kindle Edition Verified Purchase

this book was previously removed from print by Trafford Publications because I sent them actual police and court documents that proved that 1. she libeled me in the book. 2. she did not protect my identity – in a footnote she told her readers (all 10 of them) where to find an article she wrote in 1990 that contained my full and true name. 3. She had on the back cover a family photo that was taken a year before she was born. — She signed a contract with Trafford stating that her non-fiction book was the truth, but my documents proved she lied, and the contract also stated that the author holds the sole copyright to the work and all it’s content – how does she hold the sole copyright to a photo that was taken before she was born? Because she violated the contract she signed with them, the publisher pulled it from print.
She also claimed that a lawyer “vetted” the book. No, because she says in the book that my father was a poor uneducated man, however in 1955, he took a job as a civil engineer in the streets paving department of the City of Buffalo, working in City Hall, and had many political persons as personal friends. Joan’s “lawyer” was either a piss-poor vetter, or a figment of Joan’s imagination. Why do I call this lawyer a piss-poor vetter? Because in the downtown public library of Buffalo NY are back issues of Polk’s City Directories – that list my father’s name, address, employer and his job title in the directories from oh, the late 40’s all onto the 2000’s.

 

Your initial post: Jan 4, 2016 12:31:12 PM PST

gert mcqueen says:

Yes, Ruth, this revised and reworked piece of work contains many false-hoods, fabrications and misrepresentations, as well as libel. This time around she has real names of many members of the families, including pictures. Why? Because she says, dead people can’t sue and neither can their heirs. She has spent a few MORE years, of her horrible life as a duped adoptee, rewriting her memoir in order to change MANY things. Why? Because she has read our complaints about her selective memories, and since key people like the adoptive mother and OUR father are now dead, she feels FREE to expound with more creative FICTION upon REAL PEOPLE, all the while never mentioning her own actions within any particular circumstance or situation; it’s always about the other guy, never her.

As we have stated over many years, since the appearance of her first piece of exploitation, the reasons that she falsely accuses family members is because she hates being adopted, her belief that everyone in two families where all out to get her and her belief that the world will learn something from her life. What will they learn, you ask? That the author needs serious help.

 

In reply to your post on Jan 4, 2016 12:50:47 PM PST
Ruth Pace says:

Gert McQueen says “the reasons that she (the author) falsely accuses family members is because she hates being adopted.” I concur, but also add, the reason she goes after her birth sisters is because she was adopted out and we were not. Also – she singles me out in particular to be her main target. Why? Because when our mother died, I was placed in the care of my mother’s brother M. and his wife, who actually wanted to adopt me and raise me in the Protestant religion. But my father refused, because he wanted me raised as a Catholic. — The author simply can’t stand the fact that my father gave HER up for adoption, but not ME. She has been trying to punish me for that since the early 1980’s. The various versions of her book contains many many lies about me. The majority of the book is involved in detailing MY life story, about my dancing, my marriage, my miscarriage. Every other page is Brenda this, Brenda that – (she calls me Brenda, but leaves many clues to my real name). Brenda, Brenda, Brenda. Is this a book about adoption or adoption reform? Or is it a book about the life of Brenda?

the book is Joan’s way of ‘getting back’ at every one in TWO families, because Joan was ADOPTED!

here’s a list of all current reviews…

1)     https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-one-1-of-3/

2)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-two-2-of-3/

3)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/3-of-3-what-duped-by-adoption-joan-m-wheelers-friends-have-to-say-about-her-latest-piece-of-garbage-reviewer-number-three/

4)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/i-interrupt-my-sequence-of-3-reviews-and-my-comments-to-bring-you-this-newest-one-too-good-to-wait/

5)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/review-number-five-5-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-e-book-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-and-my-initial-comment/

6)    https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/review-six-6-of-forbidden-family-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-by-joan-m-wheeler/

7)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/review-7-of-joan-m-wheelers-revised-edition-of-her-garbage-book-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption-says-the-book-describes-the-pain-of-being-a-victim/

8)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/review-number-eight-8-of-my-life-as-an-adoptee-duped-by-adoption/

9)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/no-doubt-about-it-joan-m-wheelers-latest-revision-of-forbidden-family-duped-by-adoption-is-an-eye-opening-book-she-is-her-own-worst-enemy-and-she-doesnt-even-k/

10)  https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/review-10-of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-people-do-see-behind-her-curtain/

11)   https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/01/04/review-11of-joan-m-wheelers-garbage-book-not-everyone-is-duped/